(9-22-05) *** [originally stimulated in debate with a Lutheran professor of history] *** Once real presence and sacrifice are directly merged (as is the case even with the early Church fathers in many instances), then it is necessarily a propitiatory sacrifice, not merely the bread and wine, by definition. The bread and wine have been transformed […]
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